Replies to "Christian Lies"

Reply #1

Dear writer of the "Christian Lies" article,
  I was looking for more insight on the history of the pentigram, and I just happened to be led to your sight. I read some things in your sight that I did not agree with as a Christian simply because I've noticed that your info is well based on the actions of people who say they are Christians, and not so much as on the beliefs of Christians. I want to say that I'm sorry that you were exposed to such people, but I think that if you were to look into the beliefs of Christians and not so much as to the people, you would get a whole different outlook on what it means to be a Christian. As I read this sight, I noticed that there were no references to how the beliefs of Christians were considered wrong or bad. I got a lot of questions with no proof of your studies of what the "True" beliefs of Christians are. I can give you many scrpitures from the Bible that will give you answers to your questions, and I'm sure that there are other "Real Christians" who would be willing to do the same, not to win some kind of debate, but to show that Christianity does not contradict itself, nor teach things that people should not have answers to. I also think that if you were to study the scriptures of the HOLY BIBLE(preferably a strict version[KJV, NIV, RSV, and/or NRSV] because a lot of Bibles out today are just done by people's personal interpretations of these versions), and not the actions of people, I think that you would get a whole different outlook on what Christianity is all about. I noticed that you put a lot of emphasis on the actions of those who say they are Christians, when it can be possible that these people may be misguided, or they want to worship God their own way, and not how the teachings of Christianity say they should. To be honest, I have and met many people who say they are Christians, and do things entirely contrary to the teachings of Christianity. If I were to follow their footsteps, and not look to the teachings, I would be doing some of the same ridiculous things that you have seen some people who say they are Christians do. In other words, if I had not studied the true teachings of Chistianity, I would be doing some things that would confuse you also. Sir or ma'am, I'm asking you to please show readers of this site that you have done some studying on this subject before coming to these conclusions. Why is because I think that you would find answers to all of these, as you would say, "lies" if you were to study the scriptures of the Bibles that I had recommended. I think you will because this is what helped me to come to the conclusion of why I should believe in Christianity. I found answers to these questions, not through the actions of people, but through the teachings itself. I'll use this senario, "if you were to given a nice big, pretty waxed apple, the only way you would know if it was perfectly crisp, or rotten on the inside is if you bit it, right? That's the way it is with Christianty. It's hard to know what it's about unless you have tried the information, and have digested it fully. It really helps a lot to do the research.

    THANKS.

       Aw, how sweet. It would have been nice if he just has a central point, dontcha think?

         Rebuttal #1
         (I do not normally post rebuttals)

Reply #2

God is an octagon.
Red painted
Four runes
Risen beside our life
Passing
Passable
God is a yellow diamond
Worrying about rocks
God is a backdrop in our lives
In passing
Almost real
God tries to call back
Relaying what he found
"Walk" the white hand
"Don’t walk" the red hand
And in between
Orange vests, white collars.
Icons move people
From where they are
To where they hope
Hope lies
Lying there

       Damn it! Why can't I write like that? I hate you...

       I sweare to God I don't make these up or edit them. I didn't even reformat this one...

Reply #3

YOU ARE ABSOLUTLY CORECT but have one problem
ISLAM, AND JUDAISM, do tha same anti- all other religion thing
its not juss christianity
every govt does it. confuse tha stupid and ignorant
so its not some christian thought up thing
WHAT RELIGION IS.... it is spirituality for tha people

religion is a buisness. it is a way to let people think god likes them and
such when they do nothin

yea good site though jus that one clear up

       Thank you John for making that as clear as you did...

Reply #4

Hi,

Nice page. I just want to add that if you think about it, sorcery and magic had to be hated and attacked by the church because their existence took power from the leaders and gave it to the people. No longer did Johnny Sinalot go and ask for guidance from the local Christian elder. He would just buy a few chickens, some wine and after some chanting, drinking and slaughtering decided if that new cottage on the hill is the best choice for his life.

In Scientology a SP, Suppressive Person, is to be prosecuted and attacked (non-physically) until they give in. This allows the CoS (Chucrh of Scientology) to keep members in their famine induced states and anybody who is thinking about it having to choose between the tructh or a long-law battle. The church even sues the lawyers of the people they sue. There is a lot of parallel with this mindset and the willingness of the Chrsitian church to put out propoganda. One of the big problems that the elder Jews had at the time with Jesus, besides him breaking very sacred tradiations and laws such as not washing his hands to eat and doing works on the Sabbath, was that he was telling people to not buy animals for slaughter (against Judaism in that they believed that you had to sacrifice animal each year in order to be freed of sin and they (Jews) even backed it up in the Old Testament scriptures.) ... going against the market system of the time and also taking the power out of the hands of the Synagouge.

One of the biggest contradictions of the Chrsitian bible is that they took a book from another religion (Jews - Old Testament) and then added their own book that changed all that. They decided that their Jesus was right and the others wrong. But if anyone took the bible now and added athird chapter (cough, cough, Moromons, cough) then they are considered blasphamers and evil. And a lot of the contradictions of the bible arise out of the belief that it is inerrant mixed with the fact that it is two different books. God (Old Skool Jewish) is a lying, decitful, angry, wrathful, hate filled god. But in the New Testamnet he is a big loving teddy bear just wanting what is best for mankind.

I suggest you browse thes sites when you have a chance:

http://www.religoustolerance.org <--- They present the theories of each religion and their beliefs. What is particularly great, is that they present all sides. They will say when it is a fundamentalist, reformist or liberal idea. They were the first site that I read that explained that the King James Version of the Bible mistranslated the original language. In the original, murder, witch and poisoner were all seperate. Then in the KJV they all got the name withcraft. Not surprisingly, this was around the time of thr witchhunts. Coincidence?

http://www.landoverbaptist.org <------ This is an incredible site! It is a complete parody made up by a few people of a fundamentalist baptists religion. Thet say they "welcome the saved. The unsaved [gays, buhdists, anything] are unwelcome." They have multiple quizzes and such that have questions and answers like:

Who is more decietful? God or Allah?

And the answer is both and then they straight out back it up with scriptures. You really must see that site.

Anyway, I hope you ge ta chance to check the sites out and continue writing against what you believe is a cuase to further ignorance and destory individuality.

Sincerely,
Adrian

       What?

Reply #5

Hey,

Your MASTER wants to take you to Hell. My Master is taking us to heaven and then throwing your MASTER in Hell (for real). Why don't you change sides - My Master Lord Jesus Christ is nicer, and he loves everyone (really). He loves you.

BTW - read Michael Brown's "blood on our hands" for an accurate history of abuse against Jews by (false) "christians". It is accurate and very detailed.

May you accept Christ. He will accept you as His child if you ask him to be your Master and Lord.

Tim

       Some people are just too stupid to understand that things are a part of a wide spectrum, and are not just black and white. You are set in the belief that if I don't agree with you 100%, that I must be on the other side. And another thing... wait, Satan is calling me, I gotta go...

Reply #6

Hello,

Great site. The whole carrot of Christianity is eternal life - but who would want to spend eternity with a bunch of narrow minded Christians? That, in their arrogance is the anticipated "reward" for doing what they tell you your entire life. Sounds like hell to me.

All throughout the bible God kills people who oppose "his people" (I thought he loved us all), yet only months after killing every first born in Egypt he passes the commandment "Thou shalt not kill". So God is allowed to kill but humans are not - what hypocrisy! So, If I one wants to be God-like you need to be hypocrite and a murderer. This explains why Christians are as they are.

If God allows his "only begotten son" to die on the cross without intervening why would he help anyone else in their hour of need? Could it be that Jesus was a deluded madman and that there is no God. Socrates was a madman who got himself taken seriously - so too was Jesus.

Regards.

Christianity as antiquity - When we hear the ancient bells growling on a Sunday morning we ask ourselves: Is it really possible! This, for a jew, crucified two thousand years ago, who said he was God's son? The proof of such a claim is lacking. A god who begets children with a mortal woman; a sage who bids men work no more, have no more courts, but look for the signs of the impending end of the world; a justice that accepts the innocent as a vicarious sacrifice; someone who orders his disciples to drink his blood; prayers for miraculous interventions; sins perpetrated against a god, atoned for by a god; fear of a beyond to which death is the portal; the form of the cross as a symbol in a time that no longer knows the function and ignominy of the cross -how ghoulishly all this touches us, as if from the tomb of a primeval past! Can one believe that such things are still believed?

Nietzsche: Human, all too Human

Reply #7

Finally - someone else who thinks like I do - go fo it!

       I hope that's not an insult!

       Just so you know, I don't believe that all Christians or even just some Christians have an exclusive monopoly on ignorance, hatred, and/or stupidity.

Reply #8

Satan has vowed to make man forget god's name. Hence, man will never look to HIM for anything anymore. HE is not important. It is the son that is. Without him the father is irrelevant. You could believe and plead to the father to no avail. It is trhe son who calls the shots. GOD is not in charge anymore. Believing in god is irrelevant if you do not believe in the son first. We are led to believe, who needs god if the son is on your side? After all he washes away all your sins but god will not. So go ahead and sin all you want, you will be forgiven. Exactly what Satan wanted. On the other hand, you can be holy, never sin, live by GOD's rules, yet you will not be saved and will go to hell if you are not a believer in jesus as god according to Jerry Fallwell.
GOD never said that. It is SATAN preaching through the likes of Jerry Fallwell.
Satan has won. Clearly, he made man forget who GOD is. The message is clear, ignore/forget the creator or the father "GOD, ALLAH, HE, HIM, JEHOVAH" etc...
Even Jesus axknowledged that " it is only GOD trhat must be worshipped".
No wonder the pentagram inside the circle is a commonly displayed symbol in Texas.
May GOD forgive all the misled.

       The idea that "He who attacks my enemy is my friend" has always cracked me up. "If God is for us, who can be against us?" It's the very same thing in a slightly different context.
       Satan is as real as the Boogie Man, who as we know is an imaginary spooky guy we conger up to frighten small children in order to get them to do what we want. This is not a revelation to the enlightened. In the case of religion, each "believer in the one true God" is sure that the Boogie Man controlles all opposition. The believer then spews his own rhetoric he thinks proves he is right.
       Man's interpretation of what he is told is the "Word of God" has always been left to interpretation. Let's just accept for the sake of argument that what you were always told was the true "Word of God," out of the many different conflicting ones out there. Now, if you don't see the arrogance it takes to stand in front of a group of people and say, "What I think God meant to say was..." then you deserve to be anally raped by the Boogy Man.
       Right or wrong is not defined by the "Word of God," it is defined by the human condition. We must have faith in who we are and what we do, and what it is we have to sacrifice in order that others may share in what cannot be controlled by any government, king, or imaginary spooky guy; peace. As long as the common people sharing this little blue-green rock in space continually fight over insignificant bullshit things like race and religion, we will never experience it. Those in control exploit our differences in order to keep us at each other's throats in order to remain in control. Those in control are not interested in peace, because with peace, they'd no longer have that position of control.

Reply #9

Hey can I get a reply,will you answer one queastion do you believe there is a God (creator) ? If not would you condem anyone who killed your mother just to get a few dollors to get some food after all without God we are all just another animal and we dont condem the Lion for killing for food,no no one does.Its just survival of the fittist,culture is the only thing that tells people what is right or wrong without a God,(our culture was based on a belief in God) and we know how different and extreme some cultures are.Have you ever even studied the Bible? Just to mention that it can not be proven historicaly incorrect,and its merit alone makes it a great moral compass, to name one of many truths of the Bible which have come to pass,even though it was writtin by different people hundereds of years apart yet can not be disproved and is consistant throughout.The Jews we are told by the Bible would return to their home land as a nation and was writtin 2000 years ago yet it has come true.Much like evolution the likelyhood that a race of people could be decimated,persecuted and sifted through the nations over a 2000 year period and then create a nation again is astronomicla yet it is clearly stated in the Bible that that would happed.This is only one of many in the Bible that are fact not just a faith, they have come to pass. To you this is just a unlikely coincidence, well again there are many. Anyway if you want to believe that your forefathers were apes go ahead,I dont believe They were. And if you really knew what the message of the Bible was you wouldnt make sarcastic statements like God killed but he loves you. Things changed when Jesus died on the cross,but you have to read and study to get it,not just take things out of context,after all he is the supreme being he can do what he wants dont forget he is the creator and we are just the created.What a sad exsistance it must be to have no hope of being anything greater than just another animal in this world.

Have a nice day :)

       I don't feel that telling you or anyone else if I believe in what I feel is a very narrow view of who or what God happens to be is anyone’s business. I also feel that a statement one way or the other will give each side a reason to judge me and not the words I write. Besides, what I may or may not believe in and the reasons I hold the views I hold will likely make little to no sense to you... not because you are Christian, but because I will use things like proper punctuation, stick to one subject per paragraph, and convey a basic thought in a way that doesn't make one want to eat their own head.

Reply #10

I must say to this point I'll agree that the replies that you've gotten up to this point are not helping out the opposing view in any way, shape or form. However, as much as you poke fun at their "ignorance", you seem to stand off to the side mocking while you are being just as ignorant and hypocrytical as they are. I don't agree with the Catholic's actions (note it was not all believers in Christ, it was one church leading them) during the crusades, as much as I don't believe in "enlightened" science cloning human tissue for the creation of the super race. You say that God was conjured up to fool people and that Satan is the boogie man, great. Did you have any evidence to support that theory? I didn't think so, just as much logical, let me emphasize logical, evidence you have proving that God is a hoax, there is equally as much in the contrary. You are right in one sense, I will never prove to you that God exists, there is absolutely no concrete evidence that God is a real being. Equally there is no concrete evidence that Gravity exists. Sure something drops and it falls to the Earth. I have no doubt in my mind that there is a force that pulls to the Earth, the government tells us it's Gravity, but I can't see that force any more than a fart in the wind. I've felt the pull of Gravity therefore I believe it exists, and I've seen the effects of Gravity on inatimate objects, therefore I believe. Equally I've felt the power of God, and seen the effect that power has on the lives of humans, therefore I believe that power exists. Am I ignorant? Probably in your myopic eyes, even though you seem to have more tunnel vision and ignorance implied in your opinions than 90 percent of any Christian I've ever met. So who is wrong? Neither, the fact that you don't believe doesn't prove or mean that if someone believes contrary to you they are wrong, it just means they believe contrary to you. That is the beauty of free speech that allows us to be that way, but don't spin a hypocrytical web for yourself, saying that all Christians are uneducated ignoramuses because they have far off beliefs. I say that because evolution as the origin of our world is just as unsubstantiated claim as Christianity is, therefore making it a far off belief. While I enjoyed reading some of the crazy responses to your rants, I must say your time could be better spent trying to improve the quality of life of those who surround you, rather than trying to destroy the beliefs and lifestyles of those who don't conform to your ideas.

       I would first like to say that I do not pick and chose the email I want to post. With the exception of the long strings of curse words, what I post is what I get.
       I would now like to address what I find awfully strange, and down right silly... accusing me of saying things I never said. I think you interpreted things I said to mean a lot more than what they mean. You also said things that are a bit preposterous, like the "science cloning human tissue for the creation of the super race" thing. I know you want to be taken seriously, and you are probably a very cool guy and all, but statements like that make me want to point and laugh, and wonder if you got dressed all by yourself today.
       At any rate, I certainly do not believe that all Christians are ignorant. In fact, two close friends are strong Christians, and are far from ignorant it my eyes. They also play Dungeons and Dragons. Maybe they're just evil... I may have to pray for guidance on this issue.

Reply #11

You accuse Christians of being ignorant-- yet your little "summary" of Christianity seems quite ignorant to me. If there is no God, how do you explain miracles? A little bit of fairy dust, or perhaps it's all in the camera tricks? I've seen stuff like that really happen... God is as real as you and I. How can you enjoy finding everything in the world you hate?

       Yeah, like I keep finding sardine sandwiches w/mustard in the fridge, and I hate mustard!
       Seriously though, I accuse a lot of people of a lot of things, usually because I have strong supporting evidence to do so. In the end, I may be wrong. I don't think so though but I never said or implied that all Christians were ignorant, you said I did.
       As for your 'how do you explain miracles' question... you're a complete idiot. That would be like me asking you to tell me the colors of all the medications on my desk right now. You don’t know what they are, how many different ones there are, or if they're really here or not! You know, a lot of people are going to write you off for that line alone.

Reply #12

Wow, just when I begin to think that christians cannot get any more pathetic. I followed the link to chick.com and found something really funny. The made up a pamphlet about Sept. 11. You really must read it. I tells the beautiful story of how a lost soul(a Muslim) is saved by the teachings of jesus. What strikes me as the funniest is that christians actually believe that they can convert muslims, or any other religion so easily. This fantasy is akin with the average man's fantasy to convert a lesbian. Chances are neither will happen. And even if it did, who cares. So, you pulled the religious wool over someones eyes or bedded a butch...you're still not getting into the history books.
Take care Pat.

~Sean

       Unbelivable...

Reply #13

I'm sorry that you have so anger much built up inside. I believe that your facts, (or lack of) are a little out of place. I have to give you a little credit though, your article is quite comical . Just a quick note: It takes wisdom to confront an issue with facts; however, it is quite ignorant "and funny I must say" to attack someone or something with empty words and accusations that cannot be proven. By the way, Cristian is spelled Christian. That would be a good point to start your new and hopefully improved article.

P.S: Like it or not, the same God that you insist on bashing today, is the same Lord of all that some day you WILL have to give an account. You can deny it now, but unfortunately for you, life is only so long.

Prayers, Eddie

       Eddie, my man... I am here to tell you that I haven't the anger you think I have built up inside. I'd explain, but I doubt you would accept any explanation other then one that bolsters your thoughts and/or feelings, so I won't bother. As for typographical errors, I tend to let them stand as is when I haven't caught them in over four years! And was I God bashing, or bashing those who claim to speak the word of God?

Reply #14

christianity is a horrible disease, those who are unfortunate enough to catch it have little hope of recovering as the rest of the spores will soon re-infect the weak host at the slightest sign of recovery. Christianity is at it's later stages, incurable. Our only hope is to try and combat it before the disease has a grip on it's victim. as you rightly say, ignorance is an open door for it's foul poison. bloody boring shit's as well if you ask me........

barrabas.

       I can't help but think that you may have some issues there. I also can't help but fear that you may be against Christianity in favor of another type of invisible man in the sky worship. Whatever you may think, the real disease is hatred and the lack of tolerance in the world.

Reply #15

Thank you, someone out there besides me knows the truth.

       Truth is in the mind of the beholder...

Reply #16

Hello fellow rationalist.

I am nearly eighty years of age and for the better part of those years I have been a free-thinking Atheist, in spite of the compulsory religious indoctrination that I was submitted to in a British school. Over the years, I have found that the only reliable people I have ever come across have always been Atheist. This includes close friends, family, and those whose integrity had to be paramount, namely, fellow aircrew during my time in the British Navy (Air Service) during WW2.

I instruct local groups in Atheism and so many come to me and thank me for rescuing them from a mind-bending farce.

I must refer to the replies. I will start with number one as it was too painful to realise that these could be written by an adult. DeLeon suggest that you study another group of Bibles because the ones you have been looking at may not be truthful. It is like saying, dont read his bullshit, read my bullshit. All they can ever do is refer you to some rubbish that was written thousands of years ago by people in an advanced stage of self induced hallucination. I refuse to refer to these quotes now becuase it sickens me that people have not taken advantage of our wonderful knowledge we have today, but prefer to read, and believe the words of semi-illiterate people driven by fear of the supernatural. If only these people would listen to themselves they would know how far down the wrong road they are. Here is a man telling you not to take notice of other Bibles because they were people's interpretation. As the Bible(s) are the result of obvious sick minds and have been retold over many centuries before being committed to written form how does this gentleman suppose that his version is any different to any other. It is all in the mind and the sooner people start being responsible for their own thoughts and actions instead of attributing them to a god or gods they will suddenly become aware what a wonderful feeling it is to have an uncluttered mind that has previously been dictated to by numerous groups of other sick minds or people out for power or financial reward. If one has to look for a Christian who follows Biblical advice they will, from my experience, have to live a lot longer than the 2000 years history of Christianty. I am yet to meet a trustworthy Christian. I believe that if you live a lie by not seeking the truth, that alone is dishonesty.

Thanks for your site.

Regards, Ken Hudson.

       Wow... you sure as hell do not fuck around, eh?
       I don't want to disappoint you or anyone else, but I am not an Atheist. That being said, I do not follow a religion, nor do I believe in the supernatural. In other words, I do not possess what I feel must be the highest form of faith there is in order to proclaim myself Atheist, nor do I believe in the "reality" of the Dungeons & Dragons bullshit that is attached to every religion there is. I certainly hope there is some sort of continuation of consciousness after death, but if there isn't, there will be no me to be disappointed.
       As for never knowing a trustworthy Christian... that sucks, and I am sorry. Most of my close friends are Christians. Come to think of it, my two favorite people in the world are recovering Catholics, one now Atheist, and the other is close to Atheist... I think. Hmmm...

Reply #17

I was like seaching around, cause im annoyed by all the lies so called "Chistians" are saying. The term "Christian" means 'like jesus' But if people arnt like jesus and claim they are.,, they are liers, i.e. middles ages crusades, and more recently U.S.A. and any other countries or people acting like they are christian, taking the name but arnt like jesus ^_^

hurrah, some jesus quotes =) ...

       Um, I just deleted a shitload of quoted scripture. Why do people do that? I get bombarded by scripture all the time. Am I supposed to go "Ah ha!" eventually? Shit, let it go. I can read, and I have read the King James Bible, believe it or not. It was a bit preachy, and I didn't like it. Cool ending though...

Reply #18

Hey, kick ass site, I haven't seen something more true and logical reguarding religion, or atheism in a long time. If one has a mind which has the capacity to think logically, it would coprehend that believing in something which has never yet been proven to exist is absurd...and burning people at the stake and drawing and quartering them for being "heretics" just fills me with a barely suppressable rage. I am an atheist, but for some reason a year ago for a period of about half a year, I truly thought I believed in "God". I realized after a while, that I was fooling myself, and I started analyzing some religious and atheist arguements to conclude that there is no proven god, therefore believing in one would only cause me a waste of time. Unless the sky suddenly splits open in a bright aura of holy light, and a superhuman voice tells me that I was wrong, I will not be convinced of the existence of a holy being. There are lots of arguements about this, and I think that one only needs to click and type in something like, "Atheist arguements" or "Atheism", or something of that sort in an internet search engine, and read some issues about this. This is how I came upon this site. Thanx for making it!

Ilya

       Any time...

Reply #19

Well, I do not claim to be a mental genius. (Did I spell that right??) But I can offer this viewpoint. I work for a Christian belief based group home. They "encourage" the children to go to Christian church. Supposedly no one is forced because they get state funding. What they don't tell the social workers is that kids who refuse church are given the cold shoulder by these caring, loving, benevolent house parents who give up so much to care for these poor, abused children. Most Christians will say to anyone " study the bible and that is our faith - not the actions of some Christians". The problem is that the same Christians that say this are the ones who lie. When one of these so called born again "saved" people can lead a life that is something near to the life they propose pigs will fly with golden wings.

Here is a cute example -- Child at the group home lies alot and is told by Christian Mommy that she is going to burn in hell if she doesn't stop lying and stealing. But Christian Mommy doesn't mention her trip to Las Vegas where she got a lap dance in a strip club. ( of course she didn't really want it - it was forced on her.) This is a true story.

Lets face it - most Christians just aren't very "christian".

       Ah, but did she steal the lap dance??

Reply #20

you write with such passion................passion is love,love is god religion is war.some time's i think to my self what a waist of brain space we are hear to contribute toward evolution off an equasion

       Wow, how deep. And you feel sorry for me!

Reply #21

you stupid!!!you have no right to say cristian God is lucifer.YOU AND YOUR GOD IS LUCIFER.You know why I am saying thig this?you will go to hell!!!!!

bye!!!

       This had to be a joke...

Reply #22

All religions breed war, hatred, bigotry, ignorance, fear, etc etc etc, I often slate christianity in a small mag I publish for students and some of the replies I get "you'll burn in hell", "you are doomed" make me realise it's all worth it. I like your site and I love the fact that the christians are responding like they are, it shows they see you as a threat. when you look at sites like godhatesfags.com and see what these people are really made of then they have NO DEFENCE regardless of chapter this or verse that. keep up the good work and thanks for your link to the chick site, I'm currently changing a few around for comical effect.

       Pastor Phelps. What a frigging idiot...

Reply #23

Do you believe in god? "No" Bang your dead. Do you believe in god? "Yes." Do you believe in my god? " No." Bang your dead.

Christians. At least the zealous, hard core, freaky christians also do not realize that if you really look at a few of their holidays...some of them are not theirs. They were adopted from pagan festivals that celebrated life, and the harvest to name a couple. They said good-by to loved ones and wished them a safe journey. They believed they were going to a good place at the end of their journey.

Christians made everything that challeged their beliefs evil. If you did not follow thier ways you, your family and friends became outcasts or worse, were hunted. Bringing fear and suppression to a great many religions. Many of those religions have been around for thousands of years. Christianity is not an old religion it is one of the newest ones on the block. However it is also the most closed minded and condeming.

Enough of my ranting I don't need to get started. Good luck with your wrinting.

       Nice quote from Uncle George.

Reply #24

Hello,
       I can not tell you how glad I am to see that someone has the IQ to tell the truth. Very good job on the web page. My name is Jason Jennings, I am from Altavista, VA. I am 25 years old, and all my life I have felt this way towards the Christian Church and to all the lies we are told as we grow up. I have the same beliefs as you do and I just wish there was a way to speak out against the falsities we encounter everyday. I have had numerous battles with so-called Christians and have done tons of research to support my beliefs. I totally support your efforts and if there is anything you would like to discuss in detail mail me back. I believe in a creator or God, I do not believe Christian lies.

Thank you for your time,
Jason Jennings

       An invitation to a theology disscussion... hmmm... I have to say thanks, but no thanks.

Reply #25

well i must agree that some things that you have said are well and true but we (christians) are not all ignorant fools like Jack Chick and his publications and those Crusaders comics also since you have taken your time to write this page on the fools that you have come accross trying reading the Bible (king james version) and you will find truth there.

thanks for taken time to read this
God bless
lee

       I never said all Christians were ignorant fools. And I've probably read more scripture than most.

Reply #26

Thank you Pat

No need to publish me on your website, just a note of thanks.

Today I realized a friend half way across the world had been growing dumber in the last couple of years. It started as a few really dumb ideas about life and I was wondering what had been happening to her.

Well as it turns out she lives in a third world economy and to get work, food and shelter these people have been making her their possession. She has been hypnotized over time, right in the day light, no swinging watch required, right in the Christian church, and all the nature elements of reasoning abilities have been evaporating for some time now. Now she can't put 2 and 2 together and everything is boiling down to these cheap shots on basic truth to avoid truth.

We used to be good friends but the word friendship means something more to me, a connection of the mind, that includes having reason based in reality, and for me reality is that which is real. But she rationalizes now, which is a way of saying reasoning based on facts doesn't matter any more. I guess it is real enough for her, to get food as a bride for survival, and to sell out on thinking for herself, but I would rather die and that's my truth.

She starts out doing the right thing, eat and pretend to believe, but the hypnotism took root in about 8 to 9 months. A life without an original thought is like not living at all for me, and since I will die one day and not remember how long I lived, as long as I am here, I can think for myself, and it works for me.

I searched the words "Christian Lies" and you came up first, so thanks and also thanks for the humor. I have lost a lot of good people and family to the cult of Christianity and all of them have significantly lowered IQ now, just my experience with them, and I do miss them as human beings. I realize you have some sharp-minded Christian friends and that is super. I am not as fortunate as you in that area. My friends and family all sold out on being self-aware human beings and allowed someone else cults and dead people’s writings to run [ruin] their lives.

So for me I have to create a new religion. Let me tell you it's the coolest of all. It's a cult, which means it's man-made. I invented it myself. In my cult, no one can join, so it's a cult of one. It will never go far and it will die with me. I gave it no name so the Christians can't use it for target practice. All I will do, when my cool cult of one is presented to anyone else, is tell a person how anyone can invent their own satisfying individual cult of one if they choose to. Can't tell you about the spiritual experience because no words can every describe it, it's personal, it's above words. I can only talk up to the end of logical level and that's all. After that it's all metaphorical.

But the coolest part of this cult of one, is it's actually an anti-ignorance learning tool that I invented and since I have actually been in this "cult of one" for 41 years now, it has given me awesome gifts. What it did was lead me into "compounded exponential dyslexic conceptualizing", and that led to the discovery of the Unified Field Understanding. So now all the unified field theories are gone for me and I have the understanding. Don't worry, the human race will always have some mysteries to satisfy the innate curiosity of human beings, only they will have to be outside the universe, because in this universe we're done, at least I am done understanding it.

I realized that the friendship was over, when I mention that 50% of the world sharks are dead this year, in the north Atlantic (because of the attitude of false Christian dominion over everything and anything), and how sad that is when these creatures are 100 million years old with some being 350 million years old. She said, “The Earth is not that old.” I said, "It is at least 4.2 to 4.6 billion years old, right after the first Sun went Super Nova, and blasted out to the Ort Belt." She said it's not that way because the Bible tells me so.

Then I knew it was over.

Take Care Pat

Thanks again.

       There's one thing ya failed to mention... is yer friend cute?

Reply #27

I am interested in the first half of your writings. I ask you, oh wise one...

1. Why does anything exist?
2. What inconsistencies are there between your beliefs and the passages in Genesis?

       Why do assholes still believe this is an area for debate?

Reply #28

interesting site, it is always the way of new religions to demonise the old path >religion. the christians or xians stole so much from pagans, (ups dont like that word as is means poor country dweller in Latin) we shall say the old ways. First there is Christmas's that is Yule the birth of the sun God, Oo thx is that jesus the new sun god lol. No. then easter, and others well i will let those xians look them up for them selves. BUT they never changed the days of the week all named after gods and goddesses ups and a roman emperor or two. Even the small things they changed, at Buxton derbyshire uk there is a sacred well to the goddess Arnemetia, known from roman times. They found a sacred spring and named their settlement at Buxton Aquae Arnemetiae ; Arnemetia being a Celtic deity. Her name consists of two parts, or elements, ar(e), meaning, 'In front of,' and nemeton, 'a grove,' thus the name the Romans gave their settlement. yes you got it the xians changed it to st annes well so theft again. Is there a signe of feer in all this changing names. Ok that's not all but all you are getting lol. to the xians. EVIL TO HIM THAT EVIL THINKS.m m a. bb . Ashwayn.

       Dude, lay off the caffein...

Reply #29

Where to start

Well I have a few questions. Have you ever read the bible? If not how can you talk about ignorance when you know nothing of the bible? Why would you make a website about Christians and God in general if God doesn't exist? Why waste your time on something that isn't even there? Lastly how do you know there is no God? The answer is you don't know. There isn't any man or women living today who knows for sure. I suggest you pick up a bible and start to read with an "Open Mind". Not one blinded by Left-Wing ideology. Oh yeah and God bless you.

       Yes, Dingus, I have read the bible. Can you say the same? I also read Green Eggs and Ham, but don't believe Sam is our savior. Further, this site is not just about Christians and God. And, for the LAST time, I never said there was no God. I am agnostic when it comes to the invisible man who lives in the sky. In fact, your babblings about no one knowing actually support my stance.
       And just so you have a little fact that you can ignore, left wing is not synonomis with athiest...

Reply #30

Ha Ha! Your last comment [#27] had me laughing! Thanks I needed that. I had a hell of a week. No pun intended! Ha! I swear i'm not drinking just very, very tired. Okay I've read the darn bible and its actually very frightening. I could not believe the violence. Every time I turned the page, it seemed like someone is getting stoned to death. I've met nice, loving Christians and some not so nice Christians. I'm Pagan. My whole family is. Unfortunatly I'm living in the Bible Belt of San Diego. I dont force my beliefs on anyone. But neighbors are constantly praying for me and then talking down at me. Is this the teaching of God? Hmm..Love thy neighbor..unless she's a Pagan Witch..then stone her! I'sa skeird!!!

Blessed be,
Amy

       A Pagan?! KILL HER!

Reply #31

to start off with, i am a born again christian. many of the things that have been written on this site have been the exact thing that christians have been accused off,: non-tolerance. When i say i will pray for you, do not take that as an insult. My beliefs say that when i pray for you, its not to condem you, its because i care for you. Heres an example, say that only you knew that the world was going to end and that everyone was going to die unless everyone stoped smoking. Now when you tell people this, they get mad at you and say that your judgemental for telling them that they should stop smoking. Then, you your self are persecuted and killed because of your belief. Now, i know its a little extreme, but its the same context, i believe. Do not judge real christianity by TBN, but by Christ.

       I really don’t think ya get it. I have no tolerance for non-tolerance.

Reply #32

       First, I love a good rant as much as the next guy. Second, yes I am a Christian. Hold off on the 'Great, another moron' comments and stop rolling your eyes. I just have to say that your views are very common among many people. I have to stress that not all Christians are mindless, scripture quoting, Bible thumpers. This is a truth, people are sheep and they will follow the person yelling the loudest on the highest hill. Humans in general are followers, only a few stand out as leaders. I find myself being sickened at the state of Christianity today and at those who have gotten themselves to highly visible places and feed off the people who are truly seeking God. While I still believe in everything I have come to know (through personal study and seeking) I see that Christianity itself has become corrupt, much like everything else in the world. I turn on the TV and see Benny Hinn and his seizure healings with people wiggling on the floor, or Falwell, or that sickening Trinity Broadcast Network travesty and I truly become ill. Funny, but my Bible never said Christ had a big purple velvet, high back chair with golden cherubs and scrolling all over it, or a wife with too much mascara and lavender hair. I just find it heretical to watch Christ truly taught. What a complete distortion of Christ's teachings. Give us your money... Christ had none. Don't consort with non-believers... Christ did. Set yourselves apart... Christ didn't. Christ only owned the clothes on his back. He slept on the ground and walked everywhere (except for riding that donkey that one time). I must affirm that I as a Christain am sickened by most 'Christians'. Christ led by example. Christ led by acceptance of others. Christ left the choice up to the person, He never shoved it down their throats. It's all about an individual choice.

       You can choose to believe God or not. Again the choice is yours. That's how it is left, in your hands. I live my life by that teaching. Who am I to try and 'convert' someone? I don't try. It's pointless. You will never convert someone... ever. That person has to make the coide themselves, period. I live my life by MY beliefs. If I am asked my beliefs or why I believe something, I share my experience. I don't stand on a soapbox in a park with a sandwhich board that says 'Repent or Die'. What's the point in that? In fact I very seldom ever speak up unless I am asked to do or say something that goes directly against my beliefs. I live my life and if someone sees it as a light in the dark then great, if not then that's fine too. I have several non-Christian friends. I accept them just as much as they accept me. There is a mutual respect. In my wife's circle one friend was even a Wiccan. They have a lot in common, but my wife doesn't shove it in her friend's face because she's not a Christian. In fact it's quite the opposite. They are quite close. My wife too shows her Christianity through her life not her words. Now are we perfect? Absolutely not. Are we better than non-Christians? Absolutely not. Is our life perfect and are we rich? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Are we happy? Absolutely. Who could ask for more than that. Francis of Acici said, "Preach at all times, and if necessay use words." Very profound.

       Are we ignorant for living the way we live? I don't think so. Will we raise our children in a home of "You'll go to hell if you're bad"? Of course not. Again we will set the best example we can and then as they get older they can make their own decisions regarding their faith. I don't consider that raising ignorant people, I would consider that raising enlightened people. Look around, educate yourself and make an informed decision.

       Christians are told by Christ to spread the good news, however He never said exactly how to do it other than by sharing it with people. Again it's an individual thing because not everyone can be a Pastor, or a public speaker. The best witnesses of true Christianity are the Christians you never even know are Christians. They never say a word, just live as Christ did and would most likely live... in service to others. It's all about acceptance, love and peace. Now you are probably thinking "HAH... crusades!" You have to keep in mind that the Church is lead by men (read as mankind). Man is immperfect and corruptable. Most of the things that have gone on in Christ's name were done so by less than holy people. If you read Matthew through John, Christ never built an army and went on a crusade and killed the Romans. He gathered a small group of men and changed their lives on an individual basis, then they told two friends, then they told two friends, etc. Again it goes back to an individual choice and what you choose to do with your life and your afterlife. Notice that the Roman empire fell thousands of years ago, Christianity is still going strong. It's hard to deny that fact. Something must be real about it.

       Just to touch briefly on evolution... true that most Christian schools won't teach evolution, but on the same token public schools have BANNED the teaching of creationism along side of evolution. Why is that? Because some zealot agnostic or athiest pushed it through government that it violated their rights to have a religious belief shoved down their childrens' throats at taxpayer expense? What is that all about? You talk about being brainwashed as Christians... but you blindly accept evolution because one man wrote a book over a hundred years ago? An athiest by the way. If evolution is constantly occurring, where are the new species? Why are species dying off instead of new ones popping up? Why are the apes still grunting in the mountains instead of riding horses and experimenting on humans? Why was our particular species of ape so special that we decided to walk upright and create a written and verbal language, not to mention the hundreds of dialects across the world. Also, we crawled from the primordial ooze? Why? Why did we grow eyes? Why did we grow two of them? Why do we need depth perception? How did we know there was even anything to see in the first place? Or hear? Why suddenly did we see the need to reproduce by having a female partner? Wasn't asexual reproduction good enough? Isn't asexual reproduction more efficient and free of anomolies than the sexual-based method of mixing DNA in a big genetic blender? Evolution, big-bang, it just goes against the order of nature and the laws of physics. The universe went from chaos to a structured and orderd system and now it's going back to chaos? Physics don't work like that. You can't have it both ways. But they don't mention those facts in high school either. Here's a good one. It is a proven scientific fact that the sun shrinks approx. 2 feet per year. But the Earth is how many billions of years old? Ok then do the math. Multiply the age of the Earth in years by 2 and add that number to the size of the sun and see where the Earth would be. HINT: it would be inside the sun. See my point? Both sides are guilty of omitting obvious information, which again is why DOING YOUR OWN STUDY AND RESEARCH IS SO IMPORTANT. The carbon dating system has 17 inherant flaws, people lie, trust only in your own experience and knowledge. Darwin just wanted to get published. If you want to blindly follow evolution without doing your own study, then take the blue pill and return to the dream. :)

       Of course God set the universe in motion and set it up to run itself. God is not a puppet master. We are not on strings. We are given free will. We are also given the right to exercise that free will by not acknowledging God. Again that's our choice. But, we live in a country where you are free to believe what you want... no matter what it is. Isn't that amazing and cool?! I think so. Oh and by the way, you can thank that little band of Christians called the Puritans for having the determination to come over and create a place free from persecution. Don't forget who buttered your bread as you call Christains small-minded. And don't bring up the Indians because we lived peacefully with them until the greater part of society crept in with non-Puritan beliefs and corruption. But that's another rant I'm sure. Bottom line... it's unfair to lump all Christians into a single category of 'ignorant folk'. To do so would make you narrow-minded wouldn't it? Narrow-mindedness = ignorance = fear = anger = hate = suffering. I just added a bit to Yoda's quote... but you get the idea. I don't say this directly to you Pat, but just as a general point. To not respect a Christian's rights and beliefs and to try and shove non-Christian beliefs on us is hypocritical and you are guilty of doing the same thing you blame Christians for in the first place. Just a little cold water in the face of the sleeping. I respect a persons right to not believe in God, but I do expect the same respect even though I do believe in God. That's called tolerance.

       The title of this rant is Christian Lies... why are they lies? Because they don't jive with YOUR belief system or your imperical truths? A more accurate title would be Christian Beliefs, it would show a little more accetpance on your part (although it definitely would not get the response the current title does). Religion is a gray area at best... that's where all the problems start. I've heard it said (you probably have too) and it is true. "Christianity is not about a religion, it's about a relationship." This could not be more true. It's between me and God, no one else. Because in the end you go into the ground by yourself.

       Wow that turned out to be a lot longer then I planned. Hopefully I won't get a sarcastic reply...

       Hey now, while that was a very long response, it was also quite intelligent. Sarcasm would just make me look like an asshole. I don't make fun of those who don't deserve it, like those who say thy will pray for me.
       The title of the article is “Christian Lies” partially for it’s shock value. At the same time, I think “Christian Truths” sounds a bit pro-Christian, while the article is anything but.
       Like I said one post back; I have no tolerance for non-tolerance. I personally believe that the belief in the supernatural is a bit silly, but I am also wise enough to think that, even though I doubt many things, I could ultimately be wrong.
       So sayith The Cripple…

Reply #33

From: Paula Williamson (p-williamson@bethel.edu)
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 5:00 PM

I am always relieved to know that the existence of Jesus does not weigh on the number of people who believe in Him. The need to as you call it "Spread the Word" is out of a deep caring for other people. At least it should be. There are those out there who think of it as a contest and are keeping score, for those I apologize. Being a Christian is not something you do. It is who you are. The one thing about being a Christian that really sucks is the pain you carry in your heart for people who think like you. I'm not kidding when I say pain. With Christ there is hope and a PEACE that surpasses all understanding. And about this point there is a little voice in your head saying every negative thing you can think of to make you not take time to listen and think about it. As crazy as it might sound to you, this is the devil. I know, because he once sat on my shoulder. When the devil has a soul in his camp, he doesn't let go easily. Being a Christian is having Faith. My favorite description of Faith is in the words of a song by a group called 4HIM.

[Poetry Deleted]

My prayer for you, Pat, is that you can find that peace in a world that sometimes really sucks to be in. All you have to do is ask the Lord to come spend some time in your heart. Eventually the negativeness and anger will be gone. Anger is what I feel in the things you write. I have a brother who in his 20's was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and has been crippled at a young age. People have always asked him if he ever felt angry at God that he got the disease. His response has always been, "For some reason God has needed me to be this way. I'm not sure what it is, but it evidently was necessary." I am thankful that he has a happy heart. Life would be so much more difficult for him if he didn't.

I came upon your site by accident. Actually I came by it by one of my student operators showing me the Burger King page with the retarded boy singing. Someone asked me once what was the hardest thing for me being a Christian. I said, "not laughing at dirty jokes." This would fall under that category. I have a nephew who has Down's syndrome. I felt guilty laughing, but somehow I think my sister-in-law might even laugh at that one.

Pat, I hope you have a good Christmas.

       “Spreading the word” has nothing to do with caring about others. I am sure you think it does, but it doesn't. It has to do with the affirmation of your belief, and the idea that you are doing the word of God. If those who “spread the word” really cared about people, there’d be a lot less suffering in the world.

Reply #34

From: TR (thirteentigers@yahoo.com.au)
Date: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:30 AM

All Hail the Cripple!

Congratulations! You have achieved what motivated men have been striving for since humanity began (well, some of them anyway...): A place to Rant and an audience that awaits your every word. lol. - I’m jealous. At least you cause people to think beyond the square they live in. Questioning our belief’s is the way to Truth. Since there seem to be Christians viewing this page I think they should have it pointed out to them just exactly what are the ‘Christian Lies’. The only thing that kept me Christian was Fear of Hell. Is that really the way of life God intends for his greatest creation? I don’t have all the answer’s (yet) but I know for sure that Christianity is not the way to find them. I was raised in a Christian family and have recently had a ‘conversion experience’, except that because I was already Christian my conversion was a realisation of the falseness of the Bible and the Christ story. Most of the Christian response to you has been,

“Have you even read the bible?”

Well I would ask, “Have they ever read anything besides the Bible?” Doing this is what made me realise Christianity is no better than any other religion, this is probably why Christian’s demonise any outside source. One basic thing I can point to, that should make Christian’s realise something has gone wrong somewhere along the line, is the Fourth Commandment:

“Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy”

-because God created the Earth in six days and rested on the seventh, so we are to follow suit. So the Sabbath is the seventh day of the week (Saturday). Christians go to church on the first day of the week (Sunday).

They have broken the Fourth Commandment!

Where in the New Testament does it say to stop worshipping on the Seventh and start worshipping on the First day of the week? Nowhere. It is something that has been made up since, and all Christian’s blindly accept without question, thinking themselves to be ‘Holy’ for not playing sports or working their job’s on a Sunday. Who’s going to burn in hell now?

Even saying the word ‘Amen’ to end every prayer. Do they know where it comes from? Do they realise they are praying in the name of a false god? It is a Hebrew Word meaning “So be it”, yes, but it comes from the Israelite captivity in Egypt. The Egyptian god named Amen!

The New Testament says Moses was schooled in all the wisdom of the Egyptians. The priests who taught him this wisdom would have taught him to worship this name. Moses doesn’t mention the fact that the Ark of the Covenant has similar dimensions to the King’s Coffer in the Great Pyramid (so much so that it could almost fit inside), or that the King’s Chamber containing the Coffer has the same dimensions as the Israelite temples ‘Holy of Holies’ containing the Ark. The Pyramid is way older than the five bible book’s written by Moses (which also contain an account of Moses death, go figure) and yet contain similar measurements to the God-of-the-one-true-religion's Dwelling on Earth – the Temple.

Jesus also spent his early years in Egypt and at the age of 12 he surprised many with his wisdom. Still he couldn’t quote scripture accurately. (I know you don’t like scripture quotes, but… ) Compare Matthew 23:35 - where Jesus mentions 'Zacherias son of Berachias' to the actual verse he was quoting, 2 Chronicles 24:20-21 'Zacheriah son of Jehoiada'? (Z. of Berachias wrote the book of Zechariah a few hundred years after Z. of Jehoiada was dead. Had he not read?) Does the divine Son of God make such human error’s? Or was it the author of the text? Either way the bible is seen to be fallible.

The ‘Lord’s Prayer’ that Jesus taught has similar concepts to the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Also, if you read the Precepts of Ptah Hotep, written long before Moses, you will be struck by the similarity of some passages to the concepts in the Ten Commandments, - except where Ptah Hotep is writing as a wise guide to those who are willing to listen, Moses seems to have condensed these and added the old ‘Thou shalt not…’

Personally I do still believe in a supreme being ‘God’ (my prayer’s are still answered despite no longer praying ‘in Jesus name’), I just don’t believe he has EVER given us any RULES to live (or die) by. Except he did give us our own built in Conscience. We know when our action’s are wrong, except when we have dulled our conscience by continually ignoring it. Dull your conscience and you lose touch with enlightenment. Religion is a way of dulling people’s conscience. You say, ”How do they get people to believe this stuff? Simple, get to them before they know any better, and make sure they remain ignorant”. This is something I have realised myself.

I have recently been studying some of the contradictions in the Bible (yes, they do exist) and thinking “I’ve been reading the Bible for the last 28 years - all my life - how could I have not seen these?!!” I now realise it is because no-one ever actually get’s to come to a Christian Church and do a sermon on it, no ‘bible study’ groups focus on it. It never get’s mentioned because if the issue is raised it will dissuade people from believing and that’s not want a church would want – proving that there is a spin involved and one must be kept in line with the things that support this spin. Eg. Jesus comes from Nazareth, he is said to be the fulfillment of the Messiah prophecies, so the Messiah must come from Nazareth. So let’s add a verse Matthew 2:23 that says his parents move to Nazareth was fulfilling the word of the prophets that ‘he will be called a Nazarene.’ Well, the Old Testament contains no such prophecy. Here the Bible doesn’t support the Bible. Matthew (if he is indeed the author) is using spin doctoring. Check every other New Testament prophecy fulfillment and you will find that most of them are just abstraction’s of the verses they come from, out of context, or not mentioning a messiah at all. It is all a spin.

Also, Christian’s, please explain these:

If Jesus was born of a Virgin then what is the point of Matthew Ch 1 showing that Joseph family tree leads back to David? ...And why does Luke Ch 3 have a different family tree for Joseph (some say it is for Mary but that would mean the bible is lying when it clearly says Joseph)?

Which is the correct story of Judas death: Acts 1:18 - Judas used his 30 coins to buy a field where he fell headlong and split his guts, or Matthew 27:5-7 - Judas threw the coins into the temple and then hanged himself, then the priests used the money to buy the field?

Was Jesus' cross carried by Simon of Cyrene. Matthew 27:32, Luke 23:26 or Jesus himself. John 19:17,18?

I could go on but I think it would be more fun for Christians to find them themselves (believe me, it IS fun to be able to shoot holes so easily in something which once shackled my life).

Please forgive the length of this reply. I didn’t mean to rant this long, but I must fight the resentment I feel for the loss of 28 years to Christianity. Christian’s - Think for yourself, and let other’s do the same. We have to lose our ego, our fear of being wrong, and seek the Truth. I actually feel sorry for some Christian’s whose only circle of friends are Christians and whose partner is Christian, and have raised their kid’s Christian, and yet it is all just a lie. How can they fight all this and just change their belief’s? It’s easier for them to just accept the Illusion, - give me the red pill any day.

Maybe being a cripple has given you segregation enough to view this world from a different perspective. I thank you for your insight, and your efforts to wake people up from the sleep you see them in (ie. rants).

T.Rex

"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."
        - Napoleon Bonaparte

       Ya couldn't be a bit more verbose?

Reply #35

From: Stephen
Date: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:52 PM

Right on! The only reason Christian fundamentalists in this country don't kill non-believers (i.e. anyone with different beliefs than them) is that they can't get away with it. Unless they go over to Afghanistan or Irag for, in their worldview, government-sanctioned "spiritual warfare."

       Extreem to a point, but I am picking up what yer putting down...

Reply #36

From: Brandie Turner (bturner1@fwn.fortwayne.com)
Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 3:34 PM

I recieved your BK Holiday funny e-mail and laughed my butt off and thought I'd come to your site to see if you had anymore. How truly disappointed I was to come across this page. You may choose not to believe in the Christian doctrine and you have the freedom to do so. But as I began to read your writings you were doing the same which you say Christians do. You say Christians try to get people to close their little minds, but in fact that is exactly what you were preaching. You were stating that by believing that the Christian doctrine has no true basis or facts is opening your mind. But by telling people to do so you are again asking them to close their minds to the possibility of God and a higher being. You have the right to your beliefs and as a Christian I will not bash you for those beliefs, even though you choose to demean those that are Christians. I will leave you with this final response. In all eterenity there will be alot of nonbelievers that believe. Merry Christmas!

       Is there a nice way to tell someone that they really don't know what they're talking about?

Reply #37

From: Stan (swampfrog74@comcast.net)
Date: Sunday, December 28, 2003 11:00 AM

hmm...interesting... Luckily, i belong to a Methodist church where the Pastor wouldn't hurt a fly. I've been to many in my time, including one baptist church where the Rev screamed "fire and brimstone" as he paced his altar and everyone smiled and watched. I causght a good nap in those days. I still believe in the whole God thing, but here's the thing. if there's only one true God, why do Catholics idolize Saints? I lived with this lady that had a whole setup by a siting window. If you needed something, shed point to a plate or statue, and that's the saint you'd pray to... Excuse me, but doesnt God take care of all this? See the problem is this... There's a shitload of wackos with nothing to believe in so they twist the bible for their own reasons and make everyone believe them. I believe, and that's it, I'm not on any missions to convert the world. Hey that's for everyone else to figure out, cuz i could be wrong.

       Belief is fine. Organization that dictate belief are not.

Reply #38

From: Joe Rogers (joe_rocketr1@yahoo.com)
Date: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:17 PM

Your religion (christian lies) rant was interesting reading. It was humorous and unfortunatly true, in some instances. While you only bash Christians, I find it hard to believe that you dont consider all religions so called "lies". Each different belief has their questionable theories. One must consider all sides for an informed decision. For the CHICK comic, that was just plain stupid. Anyone that would even believe any of that nonsense is moronic. That is where I agree with you. There are people that only believe in certain ways if they can proffit off of it. Thus the American way. Lead the little sheep that are too blind to see off the cliff. Now to the part where I disagree with you. Not all people who believe in the Christ are "Christian morons". Isn't that like calling every Muslim person Osama Bin Ladin? There are zealots in every facet of society but does that make every Irishman a drunk, every Oriental a genious, every Southerner inbread? In my opion NO.

Just to let you know (whether you care or not) I am a practicing Christian, and I am appaled to see other so called Chrisitians portray my beliefs they way you have viewed them. Yes over many thousands of years there have been lies woven in the Christian tapestry, but many of us are reweaving the fabric of our religion.

Now I am not going to tell you "I am praying for you" or You must believe in Jeasus, and Jeasus is the way or quote you any bible versus.You probably have a decent working knowledge on the subject, so I wont insult your intelligence. But please dont judge every book by it cover

        Yes, I bash Christian organization a bit here. You did read the title, right? Was it called “The Common Lies of Religion?” Another thing, religion is not scientific, so the word “theory” cannot apply. If you disagree, you do not know what “theory” means. And when did I proclaim the stereotype that “all people who believe in the Christ are 'Christian morons?'” I was referring to those you yourself referred to as moronic. You also seem to brush these people aside thinking they are of an insignificant minority. Ever hear some of the shit Ashcroft says and does? He’s a scary motherfucker when it comes to being a Christian moron.
        Now, you say that you a reweaving the tapestry. I know what you meant, but what it sounds like is that like Christians are in the midst of revising history. Strangely enough, this happens to be true.

Reply #39

From: Robert (rrousseau@anovacorp.com)
Date: Saturday, January 17, 2004 10:59 AM

The truth is that most Christians do not have well developed intellects and the power of discernment. Their psyches are at what is called the literal mythic level of development. They think and relate in terms of black and white and do not have the capacity to perceive or relate in a more holistic way. This is called dualism. Most also do not have the courage to honestly look within themselves to find out what they as individuals really believe about their existence. If they did, they would see that they are motivated by shame and fear. The religion is based on fear, ignorance, and shame. One only has to look at the "fruits" of this religion with all the murder, child abuse, war, and torture inflicted in the name of the gentle Jewish Mystic.

Some will remain ignorant and in denial about scientific truth and will adhere to a worldview that was developed from the perceptions and experience of people that lived 2000-3000 years ago when the world was still believed to be flat and inhabited by demons and ghosts. Most remain ignorant that the contents of the Bible were chosen at the Council of Nicae in around 400 AD and that these choices were entirely politically motivated.(again fear and shame based) They do not know that Paul of Tarsus never met or knew Jesus. They refuse to look at the implications of the dead sea scrolls and the Essene Sect of Judaism. This is why the church supressed this information. Honesty is not welcome there. Truth is not honored...but feared. Most of the more truthful accounts of the life of Jesus were discarded into the trash bin of history.

The bible contains blatant logical contradictions, half truths, and downright lies. It also contains some symbolic, mythical, and historical truths.The so called christians labeled Copernicus a heretic for asserting that the Earth was round and revolved around the sun. This knowledge is dangerous to the Christians, who think in black and white. This dangerous knowledge would force them to rethink their beliefs and to do so requires a tremendous amount of honesty and courage. If they really looked within, they would need to face their own shame and fear. But they can't, because the punishing dark god watches over their every move, belief, and thought!!! If they were to even consider challenging their beliefs, god would surely be displeased and punish them to an eternity in hell.

Fundamentalism is a dangerous cancer which must be eradicated on this earth. Look at the Catholic pedophiles and their downright denial and lack of compassion for innocent children. Look at the Islamic terrorists and the evil they commit in the name of their god. Both groups are controlled by and act out their own deep shame, hate, and fear.

       Whoa...

Reply #40

From: "Scott Drain" (sdrain@bleuchipintl.com)
Date: Friday, April 16, 2004 4:53 PM

        I think that it is hilarious that I came across this site by typing in a google search for "christian morons". I have been sitting here at my desk on a boring Friday afternoon laughing my ass off. I could not agree more with you on this nonsense. What is scary is how much influence these jack asses have been able to attain in our supposedly free society. I have always despised the hypocrisy of Christianity but really never had much reason to argue with these goons until the whole idea of Gay marriage came up. Honestly, talking to one of these people is very much like talking to a retarded child. They find it impossible to argue a point without mentioning god. Conversations go something like this:

• Christian: Gay marriage is an abomination in god's eyes.
• Me: That is not a valid arguement. We have separation of church and state and this is a civil matter.
• Christian: The bible says that homosexuality is a sin.
• Me: O.k. that is the same arguement you just made and as I said before, it is not valid.
• Christian: God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. (They always think that they made a "funny" with this line)
• Me: Again, this has nothing to do with the bible or God. This has to do with equality and discrimination.
• Christian: A marriage is the holy union of a man and a woman in God's eyes.
• Me: No, actually a marriage is a civil contract between two people granted and authorized by the states.

        And on and on and on.........

        My favorite thing is when they start to talk about our founding fathers and how they were god fearing christians. When I tell them that our founding fathers were Deists and did not believe in Christianity and that separation of church and state was purposefully written into our constitution to protect it from Christian tampering, they insist that I am wrong. I have to feel somewhat sorry for them. They are so pathetic and ignorant.

Thanks again for a wonderful site.
-Scott

       A Christian lie:

        "The United States is a Christian nation founded upon Christian principles and beliefs."
-George W. Bush

        That's the classic one, and widely accepted as the truth. I have some quotes here, and the validity of these quotes are solid, although they're sometimes difficult to research.

        "The government of the United States is in no sense founded on the Christian Religion."
-President George Washington

        "Some books against Deism fell into my hands; they were said to be the substance of sermons preached at Boyle's Lectures. It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough Deist."
-Benjamin Franklin

        "I do not find in Christianity one redeeming feature."
-President Thomas Jefferson

        "A just government has no need for the clergy or the church."
-President James Madison

        "The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my religion."
-President Abraham Lincoln

        The replies to the Rants aren't really noticed that much. It's a shame, because this sort of thing really fucks up the average Christian zealot. Hmmm, I smell a new rant coming...

Reply #41

From: "Torch" (asogavenger@aol.com)
Date: Monday, June 14, 2004 3:47 AM

Very very good points brought up. Myself being a Wiccan, I find myself getting into many arguments with ignorant Christians about their faith and the bible. But here is the funny part, they don't honestly don't know many of the true stories behind their faith. My favorite being how December 25th came about. Most if not all Christians believe this to be the date signifying the birth of Christ, but its NOT the correct date. The Christian Crussades invaded Egypt with the only intent to convert the Egyptians or kill them (not before baptizing them to make sure they "go to the right place"). The Egyptian festival on December 25th celebrated the Sun God, Ra. When the crussadors invaded, they changed this festival to the birth of the "Sun of God".

Don't believe me, read up on it. Christianity is corrupt. There is no other way around it. Look in the news. With priest committing serious crimes which are covered up by the wonderful Vatican, why are people so incredibly ignorant. If only people would actually look up the true past instead of reading stories in the Bible that were hand picked to tell all of the stories only one particular way, maybe more people out there would know the TRUTH.

For those doubting my beliefs, I was actually baptized into Christianity as a baby (when I couldn't speak for myself). After being let down by my faith, and the self pain of believing if I do something wrong I go to eternal hell, I planned to read up on the truth. I quickly changed my beliefs to those with much more EVIDENCE, and also based on my own true beliefs.

       A “true belief” is an oxy-moron.

Reply #42

From: "Common Sense"
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 7:01 AM

Yes indeed, christians make me sick, almost all of them. I can't even go to church because the ministers are full of s**t. They are the descendants of tortured martyrs (at least in their minds): "the parents were martyred and the children want revenge, it's in their blood. Forgiveness is obsolete. They act like they are oppressed by evil, but it is their own vile beliefs and misinterperetations which deem them slaves. They will only study the writings of confused Jews: The original christains (who couldn't even understand simple parables). They do not allow the 'new wine'(new ideals) to enter.

They mock other religions even though Christ's teachings are straight out of eastern philosophy. They think that being 'born again' means accepting some invisible being they hardly know into their life. Yet it was Christ, himself, who said to one man, he must be born again: Not returning to the womb of his original mother, but out of somewhere else: "What is born of the flesh is flesh, but what is born of spirit is spirit. Where the spirit goes no one knows." furthermore, the resurrection of the dead is another term for reincarnation. (John the baptist was Elijah???).

What's up with these people, Jesus used Chinese remedies: accupressure (laying on of hands), forms of psychology, even CPR and these assholes just smack people in the face and ears and yell in Babylonian nonsense.

I know things about the bible that these Bible scholars can't accept, but it is to me as plain as day. They are not open minded like 'little children', they are stubborn and arrogant like stuffy old men.

There is a remedy for you christians. Fast and beg for insight and Common Sense. The parts in the bible where it sounds like god is furious--that's men getting pissed off for him.

These foolish christians think that Jesus is still hanging on the cross, like every time we sin a nail goes through his heart. They don't remember the part where he came back to life and pretended he was someone else for a spell (somewhat deceiving and lighthearted) and gave his burden of the gospel to his followers. They also think Jesus wants us to think of ourselves as accomplices to his crux, like "I died for you so you owe me big time". Would you really give a rat's ass who killed you if you came out of it alive: "Oh death, where is thy sting"

Jesus said forgive your brother 7x77 times, but christains can't forgive a young women of an abortion that she will have to live with her whole life. There was a law, by Moses, that states: if a man harms a women and causes her to lose her seed (baby) he will have to pay her off. No joke, I don't make this up. "Then he breathed into him the breath of life and he became a living soul": same for the 'seed'--- it is not a complete and viable soul until it is born and gasps for air, which changes the entire process of life, from amphibious parasite to human being. We need Stem-cells to cure us of thousands of illnesses, even alzhiemers I have read the bible and it's not that hard to figure out. There are angels and beasts and stuff. It's a flipping children's book (with a dark side). I remember the part about the dogs, whores, homosexuals and heathens and how they will be tossed in the lake of fire. Doesn't it sound like god is pejudiced? Yeah, that's because he didn't write that part, Catholics did. It isn't even the same style of writing or wording as the rest, it rambles on like a list (not his style). Jesus told a women who cheated on her husband that she was forgiven, let a whore wash his feet with her hair (kinda kinky), he was known to hang out with losers and drunkards (he liked wine), and never denied being with them. He didn't hang out with them because they we're stupid and would believe anything, but because they had common sense.

Predestination, the rapture, the second coming are all lies created by misinterperetation of the storybook. If these so-called christains get rounded up separately, it's because they need to be debriefed.

Common sense says, we will not accept some alien race coming down from heaven at any time. Any object or force that comes out of the sky will be considered a threat from another country, Duh. Prophets who predict plagues will be considered terrorrists, duh. People who believe these messengers will be rounded up and imprisoned, and war will commence. Even the book says "every eye will see the coming", so what's with the stealth collection (rapture)? Study war and politics and you will see exactly what will happen, if this is even the truth, considering all the rewrites. God has a government doesn't he. Isn't he a King. Isn't he going to establish a kingdom on earth? Well how do you come in and do something like that respectfully--- You send ambassadors and try to make a final treaty, if that doesn't work, you begin a display of power, then if that doesn't work-- War. This has already happened between Moses and the Pharoe. And Revelation describes the same thing-- two witnesses, plagues then armaggedon.

I will challenge any bible scholar any day, any time and throw the words of the book back in their face. Jesus didn't have the education that I had in 5th grade. I don't think the bible is a masterwork of lit. Want a test to try on any christian? Ask them what the fire on the heads of the apostles in the upper room represented. They will say the Holy spirit. Whatever. The 'tongues' of fire represented candles-- human candles, like the old menorah So please don't go to church, stay home and think. Use your brain and your soul, maybe you'll come to know what I know, and things will start to make more sense. Bible prophecy will be easy to figure out, god won't be riding your ass and Jesus will forgive you for crucifying him (sarcasm). Why do you think god hates the occult? when he hates the christian movement. While he was on the cross he saw what would happen (misinterperetation and lies) that's when he cried out "God! Why have you forsaken me?" not because it hurt, he lived for that day, he knew it was coming. Everyone has a right to believe what they want now, but one day they will see that there is a universal truth, like physics. Our wourd and gods world coexist, but we can't handle the truth, and they don't want to force it on us. It could all be bullshit, so don't let anything solidify in your beliefs, keep an open mind.

Stay away from lightshow miracles, bleeding idols, fatima freaks and little kids who claim to have messages from angels. Good Angels don't make prophets out of children, it's child abuse. You would not believe the stuff that goes on in catholic churches on the off hours. Satan is the god of these people. Christians are like overly co-dependent freak girlfriends. Like god doesn't want you to let go and be yourself at some point. Thousands of martyrs went to court and were killed so that differences in religion would be accepted and ritual killing would get old. It worked, but the freaks still think it's a war against the devil and sin. They keep the devil alive in there hearts.

Beware of the penitent nuns and silent monks, when they open there mouths the frogs & serpents spill out. Beware of the cult leaders who act fearless, but surround themselves with friends, soldiers and guns, while they create the illusion of the End times. Beware of the adventists who would rather wait for Jesus to come down and destroy, than live life to the fullest. Beware of the press, who want controversy and war to be your breakfast, while they kill you with the illusion that the world sucks. Beware of preachers who read from a book, rather than their hearts, and choose a carreer that allows them to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on upgrades to their pulpit, thus creating the illusion of success. Beware of the snake handlers, the Jehovah's witnesses, the Mormons, who build their entire religion on one persons whit, who market their religion by asking for tithes later. Who will refuse their own children medical care and watch their own babies suffer and die.

"the shepherd will be killed and the sheep will scatter". They are scattering all over the world, teaching lies and requiring payment. Beware of TV evangelists, who put there hands on a map and pray for the world. Who raise up huge corporations, colleges and churches to school thousands in their perverse beliefs. Beware of priests and sacraments, designed by traditional jews and romans 1500 years ago. Who give indulgences to sin, and force their priests to be child molesters and then cover it up while keeping their titles.

The world is enormous, and it is beautiful. Beware of the Pro-Lifers who judge and picket in front of clinics and add insult to injury, while teenage girls are getting their guts ripped out, they spit at them and amplify their shame. They condone the murder of physicians and call it pro-life. They force children to be born to 13 year olds and rape victims. They are detestible. Beware of judges, police and officials, who force plea bargains on innocent people, who, to this day, are doing time for crimes they did not commit, these judges will be tried and sentenced themselves. "Ignorance of the law is no excuse". "lead into captivity and you will be led into captivity, live by the sword and die by the sword". Beware of hospitals, who take children from their innocent parents because of a scratch on the forehead or a bruise on the arm.

Beware of employers who pray at meetings and use god to sell their services. They will set you up for failure. They are serpents. Report them. This is a form of religious discrimination even if they say that it is OK that you don't participate in their rituals. Beware of Mormon businesses, they hire within.

But most of all beware of me, The little book, The olive tree. The candle. If you want passage to the next realm, you must come through me. But the religious freaks, the world rulers, the crooked judges and cops, the pro-lifers, the TV evangelists, the liers, the power hungry CEOs, the bad Politicians, the sneaky senators, the lawyers will all have their day in my courtroom. I will open the books and watch the videos and ressurect the evidence of your evil rampages, before all living things, until justice is served. Time is on my side. And I'm right on time. You will have a fair trial and may even get a second chance, but your jury will be your victims, so don't get your hopes up.

       Don’t worry, I didn’t read it all either.

Reply #43

From: "JIM" (jimcoolone@yahoo.com)
Date: Friday, June 25, 2004 10:09 PM

YOUR VIEW ON CHRISTIANITY IS VERY INTERESTING, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, RELATES TO THE PUBLIC WHY YOU HAVE THIS VIEW. I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS EXACTLY THAT, GOD. I BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS A MAN BORN OF A VIRGIN. I ALSO BELIEVE HE LIVED, WAS CRICIFIED, AND THROUGH GOD THE FATHER, ROSE AGAIN. WITH THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN. THE WORD CHRISTIAN WAS MEANT AS AN INSULT TO THOSE WHO FOLLOWED THE CHRIST(JESUS). I AM FAR FROM BEING PERFECT, IN FACT I AM PROBABLY LOOKED DOWN ON BY ALL OTHERS WHO CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIANS. I LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, USE PROFANITY, WATCH PORN, GET ANGRY, ETC, ETC. WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER I WENT TO CHURCH LIKE I WAS RAISED TO DO. I EVEN GOT A DIPLOMA FROM A BIBLE SCHOOL WITH HONORS. I ALSO WOULD TELL OTHERS THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS EVEN WHEN I WAS NOT FOLLOWING THE SAME THINGS I WAS PREACHING. (I.E. HYPOCRITICAL)

IF PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE BIBLE IS NOT FILLED WITH RULES OF THINGS TO NOT DO AND UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH, THEN THE TRUE BELIEVERS WOULD LIVE THE LIFE AND NOT PREACH THE LIFE. LIVING THE TRUTH BY EXAMPLE IS FAR MORE EFFECTIVE THEN PREACHING. THUS PRACTISING MORE THEN PREACHING.

I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM. THE SYMBOLS YOU USED FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES ARE EXCELLENT, BUT YOU FORGOT THE MOST WIDELY USED ONE, THE CROSS. THIS IS THE BIGGEST "GRAVEN IMAGE" THAT THE CHRISTIANS USE. THIS BREAKS ONE OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF NO GRAVEN IMAGES. ALSO THE USE OF ANGELS AND WEARING OF SAME. THIS IS WHY I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN, I AM A BORN AGAIN BELIEVER.

BORN AGAIN BELIEVER MEANS, BORN OF THE SPIRIT. I KNOW YOU HAVE READ THE BIBLE AND DO NOT WANT TO HEAR IT QUOTED SO I WILL NOT INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE. ALLOW ME A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF WHAT I MEAN. EVERYONE WHO IS BORN ON EARTH IS BORN FROM A MAN AND WOMAN HAVING SEX, EXCEPT THOSE WHO ENJOY TEST TUBING IT INSTEAD. THUS A BABY IS HERE, TA-DA. THE WORD OF GOD SAYS THAT BECAUSE OF THE SIN OF ADAM AND EVE WE CAN NOT SEE HEAVEN OR TALK TO GOD WITHOUT A BLOOD SACRIFICE.

TO PUT THE BIBLE IN SHORT FORM, JESUS WAS THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR THE WORLD. WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS OF SIN. WHEN A PERSON ACCEPTS THIS TO BE TRUE, THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT SEALS THIS PERSON FOR ALL ETERNITY BY ACCEPTING THEM AS GODS CHILD.

I AM NOT PREACHING, ONLY STATING WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. I HOPE YOU SEE THAT I AM JUST RELATING SOMETHING TO YOU AS YOU HAVE WITH US. IT WOULD BE IGNORANT OF ME TO QUOTE TO YOU WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN FOR YOURSELF. YOU STATED THAT YOU ARE AGNOSTIC MEANING YOU DO NOT BELIEVE NOR DISBELIEVE JUST NOT SURE WHAT TO THINK OF IT ALL. JOIN THE CLUB. I HAVE THOSE THOUGHTS ALOT, BUT I ALWAYS KNOW THE TRUTH IS ALWAYS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, I JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIEWS AND COMMENTS.

       Dude, ya gotta turn your keyboard’s volume down…

Reply #44

From: Pfc. Petrarca
Date: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:01 PM

Y'know, The Christian faith is kind of like communism. It seems like a good idea on paper but when peope actually practice it, it never works out..

       That’s a really bad simile. I mean, just awful.

Reply #45

From: "James Of DOOM!" (Morbus@comic.com)
Date: Monday, July 12, 2004 8:54 PM

Hello Im only 16 but I've seen a alot of shit

Let me Makes some things clear

Most relgion is be read in the poety not the pro's(power of myth) but most Simple-mind fools take it into a pro's fashsion meh But what do expect from humanity are whole deal is to kill hunt and breed the others Artist,and thinkers are more on lines freaks (most of the time) so taking this need they twist even the most loving Idea's and makeing for the prepose of Hate and hunt My idea Jesus wasn't so much as a massiah as a messager he told Juda to sell him out so we could show the world how cruel it is but it never worked I begging think that the reson we don't have as much messagers anymore is because God keep sending them but we keep destroying them so Now we stuck in an age of consuming more then we need and not diving in to are selfs god isn't some High up person Its(god is nither He or she) all around us but yes lots of christians have disbased Pagan belif to get others on there sMost Whitchcaft belife has no satan at all or a God just the earth and them Hexagram is real sybol the sybol come from old jewish myistism where the sybol if done right would call down an angel to guide you and other is ALL of interpratations of what jesus said and did are everywear Mark Luke John Etc everybody had differnt Cults and stuff in the beggin of the christian chruch Ever herd of the copptics a sect of christianity that started in eygpt they other thing is we have no idea how many spripturs wehre lost there even a fabled Mary magdoline's side of the stroy so I think christains of ill tamerment are jst lost It about in here not out ther (Power of Myth)

       So which things did you make clear?!

Reply #46

From: "Jeremy"
Date: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:57 PM

o.k just a little fact you need to know about Satan/Lucifer, Satan/Lucifer was never a christian creation, he is in fact and this is stated in sumerian texts and tablets that he is Lord Enki the true god of humanity, most ppl don't know this cause of the lies spread by the christians, they use these lies to blind people from the truth and it's through ignorance and fear that they do it. I mean if you don't follow the bible you will burn in a lake of fire "oh please" also the egyptians worshipped Satan/Enki for thousands of years, my religeon is Spiritual Satanism we see Satan and his Demons/Gods as actual beings, they guide us to help ourselves and to free ourselves from the lies of the christian false god if your interested in reading more go to www.joyofsatan.com I thought I'd just poast this cause you need to delve a little more into ancient religeons to find out the true about the christan bullshit and I'll know you'll find out who really did guide us Lord Enki/Satan.

       I promise I don’t make these up…

Reply #47

From: "Reychelia" (reychelia@yahoo.com)
Date: Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:09 PM

Wow, you are SO right. Christianity breeds ignorance, those tight-wadded ninnies. Anyway, some of these fools' replies are so funny! Isn't great how they say that they pray for us to accept Jesus? You know, if you say the same thing back at them, like, Goddess Bless or something similar, they get all kinds of angry. I'm glad someone as articulate as yourself has said what many of our non-Judeo-Christian bretheren have been trying to get across for ages.

       Christians are usually very exceptive of other’s beliefs, as long as those beliefs are exactly like their own.

Reply #48

From: "Vic Roos" (victorlesross@hotmail.com)
Date: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:43 PM

You are so correct. I just pulled my little girls out of a bible-thumping cult school. Those poor folks are against science. I am ready to call it quits on all religion. What a bunch of lies.

        Science calls for you to ask questions, and questions aren’t compatible with theology.

Reply #49

From: "Kathleen Parnell" (lady_punter@yahoo.com)
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:40 AM

Your website was perceived by me to be promoting your personal brand of justification for intolerance towards all Christians. Now, please don t act all offended and feed me that line about That s what you may wish to think, but it s not what I said - you are reading far too much into my words. That is a cheap jibe for you to come back with, considering that you very deliberately pulled people by their noses along a one-way track labelled intolerance. Nowhere in your main article can I discern a whiff of the tolerance you preach in your replies. And, judging by many of the responses you received, quite a few others formed the same view too.

So, if encouragement for Christian bashing wasn t the sole objective in creating your website, then I contend that your real intent was very well hidden from most of us. After all come on, let s face it - as an expose on Christian lies your website musings were about as deep as a puddle on the patio; nice colour scheme though.

If your replies to the responses truly represent the real you, then I suggest that the confusion in the minds of others over where you were coming from (and going to) stems primarily from your own making. Why do I say this? Because you made reference to moronic Christians without clearly specifying that you were perhaps using that term to describe only a limited number of them. Even now, despite the more conciliatory tone of some of your replies (but not all, that s for sure!), it is still unclear (deliberately on your part, I am certain) whether you feel that the morons represent a minority or majority of Christians, notwithstanding that you have magnanimously stated (feel free to read that as condescendingly if it suits your mind-set better) that most of your friends are Christians.

Ignoring the actual slant in your rant and attempting instead to read between the lines of your replies (you certainly don t provide any other clues about yourself or your aims), I found myself thinking that what you were perhaps trying to convey was something more along the lines of:

Religion in general and Christianity in particular produces (nay, breeds) people who are too inward-looking and intolerant of others to the point of causing hardship and - all too often - wars. What we need is less religious fervour and greater concern shown for the very real suffering of our fellow human beings in this, the real world, instead of wasting time and effort in forcing others to worry more about the very dubious prospect of a life hereafter.

The above may be a tad verbose, I grant you. But it is nonetheless a genuine attempt on my part to encapsulate all the major issues on which you have expressed an opinion.

Or am I giving you far too much credit here and, in fact, you originally may have wanted to have Christians beaten up in large numbers, but later you realised that in propagating such an idea you then wouldn t be the sort of person you would wish to share a meal with?

The reason for my taunt is that your website blurb is a far cry from tolerance for Christians of any sort (moronic or otherwise). On the contrary, it is downright inflammatory, and will doubtless stir up evil in others, even if it remains contained in the confines of their minds. So if you were not writing to stir up the crowds against Christians, I am puzzled as to the point you were trying to get across. Do you wish to enlighten us, or will my response get dismissed out of hand, like some of the others, as touching on something you should not have to divulge your views about to mere mortals or, alternatively, that it is beneath your dignity or a waste of your time to formulate an open and honest reply?

Whatever, please do bear in mind that I have used my time which is every second as precious as yours - in responding to the trumpet you yourself insisted on blowing in the first place. Remember too, that of your own volition you chose to forsake the safety of your foxhole and rush out in the abandoned manner you opted for, without or so you would have us now believe - proper colours flying. Under those circumstances people have a right to ask you what cause you are battling for, whether you deign to respond or not.

       Oh wow… it blows my mind when dumb people think they are smart. They sometimes think using a lot of words makes them sound smart. I honestly wonder if she has a clue what some of those words really mean…

Reply #50

From: "Jackie"
Date: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:41 PM

Thanks for your page...

Are all Christians liars... hmmm there is a question. 9 out of 10 seem to be.

I worked for a christian childrens group home. In order to get funding from the state they have to look like they are not forcing these kids to be christian. One little girl wanted to go to Catholic church... in the group homes rules it states that all children will be given the chance to go to their own houses of worship if they wish. Guess what... she was not and the general feeling was that if she pushed the issue she would not be well liked anymore. go figure.

Christians brainwash their children and anyone else they can get their hands on. When I stood up for this girl I was suddenly not a valued employee anymore and later they tried to terminate me while I was pregnant. Mighty christian don't you think?

Anyway I am glad some people out there are not blinded by the light, i mean lies.

I read the "chick" page you have linked.... don't these fools know that yes, Halloween is a pagan holiday but Christmas is also timed to compete with another pagan holiday?

       That’s exactly why Faith Based Initiatives should be ruled unconstitutional. Even people of religion should see this. But no, because Faith Based Initiatives favor the vocal majority, and Bush’s “God Squad” Administration just happens to be part of that majority.

Reply #51

From: Tobias W. Tobiassen (TobiasTobiassen@gmail.com)
Date: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:05 AM

BEAUTIFUL I TOTALLY AGREE Read "the da vinci code" it is the same shit... oh why oh why is everybody so stupid and ignorant. Jesus "is the son of god" because EVERYBODY is the son of god... at least the priest say so. thats why they don't even lie... but it is a big lie that everybody is the son of god... Jesus did not say that he was the son of god. Constantine and the roman catholic church did.... the church even called Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus A prostitute. YES she was the wife of Jesus....

       Possible, dare I say probable. But do not take The daVinci Code as a story that is totally based in fact, because it isn’t. It’s just a novel, albeit a very good one.