Replies to "A Trail God Can't See"

Reply #1

       My god, someone mentioned the G word. And here I thought that god was the ultimate dirty word these days. Actually Mr. Wooding's vision is not completely as singular as he says. It was touched upon somewhat in John Milton's Paradise lost when God is talking to Adam and says shit like "Seem I to thee sufficiently possessed of happiness or not? I who am alone for all eternity. For none I know second to me or like... who have I then to hold converse with, save with those... to me inferior." This makes god seem depressed which is not a normal Godlike quality in most people's minds. Our puritan ancestors also wrote shit with titles like Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God where people are just kind of like gods playthings and he and he alone decides who goes to heaven or hell no matter how much goodness and meaning we find in out lives… predestination I believe it was called. Which in itself means that there is no meaning in life because no matter what you do, your either saved or fucked because a pissed off greater power says so. I'd love to go on longer but nature calls.

P.S. As for the bible being the true testament, I can introduce you to a few Muslims who would like to debate that point but that is neither here nor there.

Rebuttal

       You are a wise soul. I am truly pleased to find one who has as much to question and thereby lose. I couldn't agree more about Milton, but his was at best a philosophical morality play...a brilliant one, no doubt and no argument of any worth from me...but was directed from the "Hero"...God, towards his antithesis or "Anti-hero"...,Lucifer, Satan, Sammael, whatever you choose.
       Milton's work was to define the struggle between two Chess players, as your analogy is true to the mark. While my emphasis is on the pieces themselves. Mortals, as we all are...
       I disagree with Milton's use of adversary between the two, it was a function of the tenets of his time. Good vs. Evil, and the hitherto untold sagas of the two forces.
       But, I speak for the middle men. The serfs, the pawns, the blood every honored field has drunk. Mortals.
       And I have a great deal of respect for both archetypes. The Father figure, God, lost and alone...truly immortal and without purpose. While Lucifer is the voice of what we would call reason. A scream against the cruelty of the maker's own admitted confusion. Milton, sought sympathy, the first "Devil's Advocate". Raising the banner of the first born against those that would follow and eternally punished for raising his hand in defiance against the creator, for many of the pangs that plague us, the second experiment. And thus, sharing a common ground of dispossession and inherent flaw, we can understand Lucifer...even pity him.
       So, I do share many of Milton's angst, but he focused on the polar opposites and not the chattel of the war, Humanity. For we are a trophy of God and a Sword Raised Against the Creator for Sammael.
       But as we argue, mind to mind, philosophy to philosophy, tenet against tenet, passion against passion...are we not only different and surely well watched sides of a battle that neither side has any real insight towards? Our very disagreement is an attempt at resolution, a built in need to find an answer for some other power.
       Humanity is the conscripted army between a lonely and undirected All-Power and the back-fired issuance of that All-Power's need for purpose. And thus, both sides sit and plan and maneuver for dominance on the field....sitting, waiting, anxiously...for us to find, A Trail that God Can't See. A Trail that Lucifer Seeks to Wrest Back What He has been Denied.

-CW

       And as for the Muslims, and the Buddhists, and the Taoists, and the Purely Pagan or any group for that matter....you can rally to any flag you wish and still find yourself on the same field of battle.
       Immortal miasma vs. Prodigal Son(s)....and our shoulders will bear that burden, unjustly. But at the heart, if we can question the reasons, we can attempt to alter the field and maybe then finally find our destiny as whole beings.

Reply #2

From: "cricketsarge" (cricketsarge@bbv.net)
Date: Saturday, January 04, 2003 8:19 PM

I found this particular rant thought provoking. Sometimes I wonder if my existance is actually someone else's dream? How would we really know one way or the other?

-Nanc

Reply #3

From: "Timothy Vasicek" (erthkeepr@yahoo.com)
Date: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:15 AM

Is C.A. Wooding insane? Seriously, like crazy? Whacked? Looney?

        Yes, yes he is...